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The Pope Election/ Black Pope/Jesuit influence

February 20, 2013


Here is the link....

I am not a calvanist and do not agree witheverything discussed but ido think it is worthy of discussion.


I have been following a variety of stories on the subject in general.  Plucking around on the Internet i was introduced the the topic of The Black Pope/Jesuit influence.  I guess i am naive and knew nothing of this subject until this wk.  But what i found on the subject i find historically interesting and important.  


I did find one specific interview with some historian on the subject and learned much.  As with anything i do not agree with everything i read nor do i believe everything.  I did find the interview interesting and informative even if some of it i do not buy into.  I was thinking about posting but i do not know if this topic is something people would like to read and comment.  If several of you would like me to post the article/interview please advise and i will do so, but only if there is enough interest.  comment here if you would like to read and interact on the subject and i may post or just forward a copy of the article.

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Jane Toxward, Australia , March 9, 2013 at 7:57 PM | Reply
Are you following OPPT as well?
Jennifer, , March 7, 2013 at 4:41 AM | Reply
This seems to be more the topic of a personal blog; I'm just here for the fish oil.


you don't need to participate..the blog is both personal and i am both and i am more rounded than a one track mind. I enjoy conversing on a wide range of topics...and we all don't reason for all to agree. if you do not find this topic of interest maybe another will strike you as wanting to share with the community..beyond fish oil
Lynn, Phoenix, AZ , March 6, 2013 at 11:23 PM | Reply
Hmm. This is a subject of much intrigue. One I have spent considerable time on. Sissaly's advice to "listen to all but follow none" is very wise.

I cannot trust the likes of Tom Horn and Cris Putnam, as they have been too readily handed supposed "secrets" which they now "make known" to the public. Whose servants are they, who stand to gain so much monetarily from the sales of their books and DVDs at conferences and over the internet, etc? Yyyes... I suppose the Vatican could just be feeling especially cooperative...

*Deception afoot*: Strong delusion coming upon the unsuspecting. The word of God repeatedly warns of a day very much like today. Jesus specifically tells His true disciples, "See, I have told you beforehand... so that this day should not overtake you as a thief."

Something fishy's afoot, of that I am certain. It would be a really good time to crack open a Bible (an older trustworthy translation) and get alone with God; humbling seeking His help for understanding and discernment. Jesus said that in the last days evil men and seducers would wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived, and advised His disciples, "See to it that no man deceives you. For many shall come in my name, saying I am Christ, and shall deceive many..." (from the Gospel accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.)

Make time for some serious praying and read the Bible until its truth rings through.

Another thing Jesus said: "My sheep hear My voice. The voice of a stranger they will not follow." There is only one Lord Jesus Christ - the true Jesus is revealed in the Bible. Anything contrary to Him is not worthy of our trust. There is great safety, joy and comfort to be found in the true Jesus, who lovingly and emphatically warned of exceedingly deceptive times leading up to His coming again to set things straight and judge the souls of men.

In all of Jesus' ministry while He was among mankind prior to the day of His death on the cross for our sins, His burial and marvelous resurrection (witnessed by over 500 people before His return to Heaven), His harshest words were reserved for the spiritual leaders who were trusted as representing and serving GOD. Oh the irony... and a fitting application to our times.


thank you for sharing... i personally think that the Popes actions are one of the top 5 stories of the last 100 years. It will be interesting to see if the New Pope is elected Wednesday 03/13/13. And is it coincidence that the Pope made announcement on 02/11.. the same day/anniversary that the vatican became a country (Pope as king of this country) in 1929? The Next Pope is the 7th in line of rulers of this country
Michelle Gardiner, Asheville nc , March 6, 2013 at 3:40 PM | Reply
Just remember to fact check not only with people outside the church, but also those on the inside. Recycled opinions by many on the outside may be all versions of one erroneous source. For instance, there is a book called "the Jesuits" that I read parts of some years back. Replete with errors that any knowledgable Catholic would laugh at. Just be sure to look from the outside AND the inside. Thanks.

agree. this is why i did not fully accept what is interviewed. there are many historical facts that are correct. but some conclusions are not correct. John Paul 1 was murdered, i have no doubt about this and the reasoning...but just the same there are things in this interview that do not hold up and i think because Calvinist ideology does not ring fully true. funny, there is only one truth, everything else is human made and not fully correct...including the interview posted....

but still topic is worthy of discussion, especially since the activities within The Church over the past year are historical and in my opinion one of the top 10 stories of the century.
Susan, Ann Arbor, Mi. , March 4, 2013 at 5:33 PM | Reply
A few years ago I read an article about the Black Pope/ Jesuits. It really stirred my interest and I did a small research on this subject. I found it interesting that wherever there had been a war anywhere in this world the Jesuits were always found to have gone into the area first. If you really want to look up something interesting about the Pope and the Vatican go to You will be amazed at what you read.
Susie, Norman , March 9, 2013 at 8:31 AM | Reply
Wow!!! Shocked that people believe those kind of stories!!!! Praying confusion by the enemy be cast out and God's light to shine truth for all those confused by the darkness from books and stories such as these in this fallen world. As it says in Romans 12:2 "2 And do not be conformed to this [a]world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may [b]prove what the will of God is, that which is good and [c]acceptable and perfect.


thank you... i don't buy it all... but some of the history is interesting and relevant. this came to light as the popes actions on 02/11 is one of the top 5 stories of the last 100 years.
Sara, Bentonville, Ar , March 4, 2013 at 3:00 PM | Reply
I agree Kathy! I too am very interested.
Richard Smith, Glen Burnie, MD , March 2, 2013 at 2:11 PM | Reply
Also interested.
Patricia, Detroit, MI , March 1, 2013 at 4:08 PM | Reply
From the little you've said it sounds interesting. Please post the link.
Sissaly, San Diego , March 1, 2013 at 12:51 PM | Reply
Listen To All
Follow None.
Chris Duane

Literacy is a form of slavery without a form of critical thinking, learn the Trivium. Richard Grove
Clare, Atlanta, GA , February 27, 2013 at 11:41 AM | Reply
I would appreciate the opportunity to read and access the article you reference. Thank you in advance for posting it.
Marilyn, Oak View, Calif , February 27, 2013 at 10:24 AM | Reply
Just post it.
Louise, Herreid, SD 576421 , February 25, 2013 at 10:16 AM | Reply
I'm hoping you will get enough interest to post this topic--I am also interested. Thanks so much.
Kathleen Rice, Phoenix, AZ , February 23, 2013 at 12:08 AM | Reply
Dave, I, too, would like to read what you referenced about and will look forward to any comments that follow. This subject interests me as it is a crucial time for the Catholic Church. Thank You! Kathleen
Phyllis, San Francisco, CA , February 21, 2013 at 10:09 PM | Reply
I am also quite interested in seeing the article.
Nicole, Temecula, CA , February 21, 2013 at 7:59 PM | Reply
I'm also interested in this topic & would like to see the article/interview & would be open to commenting on it as well.
Diane, Atlanta Georgia , February 21, 2013 at 6:30 AM | Reply
I am very interested in this topic and would love to see the article and/or your comments on it.

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